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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  Half banana

  Van I like your choice in motorbikes..... but I think that you have been seduced by the naivety of Christian propaganda.

  The NT was made sacred by inclusion into the Catholic Bible for the purpose of political control. It gave the citizens under Roman rule the possibility of a transformative life experience through BELIEF, it was a confidence trick.

  If "salvation" as you imply, is a life changing mental viewpoint -- it's not what most people including myself think or want. To be "saved" means to be rescued from mortal danger. I don't know about you but apart from normal hazards, I never have felt in need of salvation -- "being saved" is yet another religious concept at the disposal of preachers and leaders to tame the masses and render them susceptible to further propaganda.

  Personally I expect nothing more than the one life I am familiar with -- which is the bottom line in facing reality......

  However we are all at liberty to think how we wish but if we are honest and seek an accurate comprehension of the world we experience, we must, to misquote the good book; test the information. That involves understanding why it was written and later made sacred.
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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  I imagine he took the opportunity to take advantage of the mistake in being given a talk. because it sounds like he was 'witnessing' for his new beliefs.

  If JWs have it wrong -- he too was promoting the equally implausible scripture of Rom 10;13. How simplistic to say all you have to do to be saved is, "Call on the name of Jesus"? Taking the Bible literally, is a mug's game.

  These words are among those which must have made converts to Christianity so easy. It was the lure of easy salvation through mention of a 'magic' name. This simple formula is naive, there is not one piece of evidence to back it up but what bait for simple souls to believe!

  In two thousand years does any one have the name of someone who has definitely been 'saved' through calling on Jesus?

  Is "salvation" useful, or even desirable?

  Should we listen to the words of the ex JW speaker on the platform because he now has the right interpretation on the Bible?
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  Was Sin Inevitable?

  by Parker in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?

  also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.

  well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?

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  "Sin" and its partners "perfection and "imperfection" are religious constructs.They are key parts of the control apparatus to put worshippers under obligations.

  They only exist in the minds of believers.There is no way of measuring or quantifying sin, it is a mythical explanation for not being perfect when a perfect mythical god supposedly created humans who supposedly became imperfect.

  One of the joys of waking up from this fallacy is the realisation that we are not made imperfect from an ancestor's misdeeds and we do not wear the burdensome cloak of guilt, unless of course we deliberately harm others or break the law. Neither do we need to grovel to an invisible god to get a pardon through human sacrifice.

  Religion and its insistence on sin infantilises us putting us back to the helplessness of childhood and dependency on others. Christian religions in effect teach that we are all naughty children.

  Was it inevitable? It doesn't exist.
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  So according to wt. Doctrine, If you die one day before Armageddon...

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  you will be resurrected.

  but if you live one more day when armageddon starts you will die a horrible death with no chance of a resurrection.

  makes sense to me!.

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  If gods existed, would they be bothered with mere doctrines made up by men?
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  No, They Will Never Notice!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since the watchtower has already made this bible public, i can put a link out here.. no, the rank & file will never notice the words "governing body" have been inserted into acts 15: 1-35 in the 2019 new world translation, matthew to acts.. click the image to make it larger if need be.. https://postimg.cc/sqvdl10w petra!

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  Half banana

  The scripture at Acts 15, not written by Paul, represents one particular contemporary strain of Christian thinking from among those who were conscious of the non-Jewish converts who wanted clarification on doctrine.

  Christianity from the start was diversified and full of divisions because even before the invention of the Roman Church, which really did universalise belief through force, there were many sects developing and diverging. What appears in the final Roman selection of scripture in Acts, is an almost democratic mission to sort out a problem of teaching. There is no mention of a supreme authority as there came to be in the fourth century under Imperial Rome.

  Rome had absolute control but the leaders of the JW organisation function in a solipsistic bubble, collectively they have Solipsism syndrome.

  "This refers to a psychological state in which a person feels that reality is not external to his or her mind". That is; only what we think is right....is right. It includes the inability to see that others could be right with an alternative viewpoint. It is an essential defect for leaders of a religious cult. Democracy in any form is the death of this type of autocratic leadership.

  For one hundred and forty one years seeing themselves as privileged members of the governance of the Watchtower, the GB imagine they are the apple of God's eye, the very focus of his attention!. They are a collective of narcissists who are even prepared to alter the Bible to favour their own role as divinely appointed leaders and credit their own work as ordained by scripture.

  What hubris!

  It can only lead to their downfall.
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  Netherlands: sexual abuse report can stay online judge rules

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/08/jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-report-can-stay-online-judge-rules/.

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  The Dutch Government recognise that the JW organisation publishes lies, namely that they give pastoral care to the victims when in fact they certainly do not..

  JW "pastoral care" consists of this remedy: read the WT literature and keep preaching.

  This is wholly self interested, misguided and uncaring not to say desperately wrong. The abuse problem until now has been concealed for the sake of bad publicity. The self esteem of abused person just withers away. People lose the will to live when those in authority who claim to care just ignore the plight of those who have been sexually abused.
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  The mormon church(The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone here thats a former mormon?

  a person in the internet wrote abouth them.

  that community could not be more impressive in its cohesion, sincerity, benevolence, decency, patriotism, and faith.. i seen mormons go from house to house before the convid virus.they always seem cheerful.

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  Always be sincere, whether you mean it or not.....

  However it's probably easier to swallow ancients Bible myths than it is to believe 19th century fantasies about finding golden tablets bearing the book of Mormon. In both cases, the evidence for the truthfulness of the Bible and the Book of Mormon, is no stronger than for fairies living at the bottom of the garden.

  You simply have to want to believe it.
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  The toxic JW Worldview

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sometimes i forget how small-minded, petty, provincial, mean-spirited ignorant and judgemental it was and still is.... then i sit down with a jw relative, hoping to have a normal conversation and realize there is literally nothing to talk about.. nothing..... current events?

  hobbies?

  your job?

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  It must be distressing for you Gorby.

  It is also very hard to get on the same wavelength with people who have willingly given up their personal choices in life, their career, their ambitions and even handed over their own conscience to eight men they don't even know -- who live in a metaphorical bunker in New York State.

  It says something about an individual's view of themselves to want to become a doormat and be proud of it.
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  The Black Goat in the JW Covid-19 Report - 2020 Governing Body Update #5

  by Oh-my-God in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did you notice this?

  2020 governing body update #5. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/docid-702020307_1_video.

  why do they show the black goat in the picture?

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  Back when I was a member of the Watchtower Voodoo cult, there was a sister who didn't like the bother's house where the grope study was held. To get to the front door you had to pass between a pair of fancy vases on plinths which held geraniums in the summer. The vases had horned goats heads forming handle like projections at the sides and the sister, who was very narrow in outlook but took the memorial emblems, was convinced they were demonic. Yer can't please everyone!
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  The Black Goat in the JW Covid-19 Report - 2020 Governing Body Update #5

  by Oh-my-God in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did you notice this?

  2020 governing body update #5. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/docid-702020307_1_video.

  why do they show the black goat in the picture?

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  Half banana

  It's just a sculpture folks....there are no ibexes native to Angola...looks like an ibex perhaps a female Nubian ibex ...but the ibex is a goat! (genus Capra)